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Opencaching International => Public discussion => Thema gestartet von: following am 29. März 2013, 02:03:29

Titel: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: following am 29. März 2013, 02:03:29
Opencaching.se/no sieht ziemlich tot aus: In 2012 waren es nur noch 21 neue Caches und ca. 100 Logs, in 2013 bis dato nur ein Cache und vier Logs - letztes Log vor zwei Monaten. :( Auf allen anderen OC-Seiten ist mehr los.

Opencaching.se/no looks dead: In 2012 there where 21 new caches and 100 logs, in 2013 up to day only one cache and four logs - the last one two months ago. :( There is more activity on all other OC sites.

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Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: mic@ am 03. April 2013, 23:31:34
Zitat von: following
Opencaching.se/no sieht ziemlich tot aus...

Wo wir schon im Norden sind: Was ist eigentlich mit http://www.opencaching.dk ?
Wer steckt dahinter...?!

Regarding northern sites: What happened with http://www.opencaching.dk ?
Who is responsible for this...?!

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Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: Hanekju am 04. April 2013, 01:00:38
Opencaching.se/no looks dead: In 2012 there where 21 new caches and 100 logs, in 2013 up to day only one cache and four logs - the last one two months ago. :( There is more activity on all other OC sites.
It seems the dutch OC-Site has got the same problem: Only one new Cache this year and the latest log is one month ago :( .
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: Mr.Yuck am 19. April 2013, 20:11:32
Opencaching.se/no looks dead: In 2012 there where 21 new caches and 100 logs, in 2013 up to day only one cache and four logs - the last one two months ago. :( There is more activity on all other OC sites.
It seems the dutch OC-Site has got the same problem: Only one new Cache this year and the latest log is one month ago :( .

I never noticed that on the Dutch site. I noticed they have 6,000 caches listed, but only now I notice they only have 500 found logs, and only 2 new caches in 2013.

Opencaching.jp (Japan) only existed for a year, from September 2010 to September 2011. It is now a dead link. It appeared to be a copy of the Opencaching.us site, when viewed on Archive.org

Opencaching.lv (Latvia) has still never been launched.
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: ra_sch am 19. April 2013, 21:24:28
Opencaching.se/no sieht ziemlich tot aus: In 2012 waren es nur noch 21 neue Caches und ca. 100 Logs, in 2013 bis dato nur ein Cache und vier Logs - letztes Log vor zwei Monaten. :( Auf allen anderen OC-Seiten ist mehr los.

Opencaching.se/no looks dead: In 2012 there where 21 new caches and 100 logs, in 2013 up to day only one cache and four logs - the last one two months ago. :( There is more activity on all other OC sites.

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From what I read on the site they discourage double listings, so no wonder they have fewer new caches then others...

ra_sch
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: Mr.Yuck am 20. April 2013, 05:20:47
Opencaching.se/no sieht ziemlich tot aus: In 2012 waren es nur noch 21 neue Caches und ca. 100 Logs, in 2013 bis dato nur ein Cache und vier Logs - letztes Log vor zwei Monaten. :( Auf allen anderen OC-Seiten ist mehr los.

Opencaching.se/no looks dead: In 2012 there where 21 new caches and 100 logs, in 2013 up to day only one cache and four logs - the last one two months ago. :( There is more activity on all other OC sites.

Edit: added English translation

From what I read on the site they discourage double listings, so no wonder they have fewer new caches then others...

ra_sch

I didn't mention it in what was my first post above, but I became an Admin for Opencaching.us last month. We strongly discourage double listings too, but we're doing much better than that!
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: following am 21. April 2013, 15:44:32
The United States have somewhat 20 times the population of Sweden+Norway.

Opencaching.se+no have 275 active caches and 1519 founds, while Opencaching.us has 1176 caches and 2328 founds. So the SE/NO sites have performed much better than US, regarding the number of caches per citizen and the number of logs per cache.

In the recent time, SE/NO have become a bit "sleepy", but we are going to change that. :)
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: mic@ am 21. April 2013, 19:19:10
Zitat von: following
The United States have somewhat 20 times the population of Sweden+Norway.

You forgot to mention that the U.S. are the country where geocaching was invented.
So an extra bonus to U.S., which makes the result of SE+NO even brighter.
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: Dr.Acula am 04. November 2014, 15:50:10
Hi,

in summer 2014 I've visited denmark and sweden. While planing this trip I also took some OC-only caches from opencaching.no/se with me. Of course I've logged my founds after that trip. In december I am going for a trip to norway and so I've hoped again to visit some OC.no/se-only. But meanwhile the page is down for a long time and the URL redirects to opencaching.de.

Does anybody know, if OC.no/se is completely dead or just temporary down? What happened to all the caches, logs and photos?

Greetings from germany,
Dr.Acula
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: ra_sch am 04. November 2014, 22:55:45
Hi,

I have no real information about the current status, only some background. In early summer (we, the c:geo-team was busy integrating more oc-nodes) I contacted the admin of oc.se whether he was interested in trying an OKAPI-integration and he answered me, that he rather has in mind to transfer all of oc scandinavia into opencaching.de...

Regards
ra_sch
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: Mr.Yuck am 13. November 2014, 19:33:04
I get opencaching.se redirecting to opencaching.de, but when I try opencaching.no, absolutely nothing happens.  :)
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: dl6hbo am 16. November 2014, 11:48:57
To me it seems that opencaching.no is redirected to opencaching.se which is visible by my ping test:
ping -c3 www.opencaching.no
PING www-oc.shyrtol.se (83.233.249.163) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- www-oc.shyrtol.se ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2016ms

As you can see, there is no reply to the ping request. :-(

Trying without the "www" part you get a different address:
ping -c3 opencaching.no
PING opencaching.no (94.255.241.21) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- opencaching.no ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2016ms

Food for thought, me thinks.
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: Dr.Acula am 16. Dezember 2014, 12:30:36
Hi,

I contacted the admin of oc.se whether he was interested in trying an OKAPI-integration and he answered me, that he rather has in mind to transfer all of oc scandinavia into opencaching.de...

Obviously nothing has happened so far. I hope the admin of oc.se is going to do what he told you. I wouldn't like to see all the caches, logs, photos and users dumped. And I'm sure the other users in scandinavia won't approve that either. In summer there have been many caches in sweden, norway and denmark.

Greetings,
Dr.Acula
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: following am 30. Mai 2015, 14:46:46
Two years ago, the Opencaching.de and .se/.no teams decided to merge the nothern sites to Opencaching.de. The last status was that I set up a test site for the migration, which is still running, and waited for a "go" from the se/no admin, which never came. Half a year later I left the OC.de team, and afaik noone else tried to pick up the migration task.

I have some doubt about the quality of the northern cache database. Due to the very low site activity in the years before shutdown - and zero activity thereafter - there may be lots of unmaintained caches and listings.
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: following am 31. Mai 2015, 17:51:29
The  Wayback machine (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://opencaching.se) shows that opencaching.se/no has been shut down in August or September 2014.

Here is the todo list for the se/no migration: http://redmine.opencaching.de/projects/oc-dev/issues?query_id=49

If there is someone who would like to take over this issue on behalf of Opencaching.de, please let me know. Otherwise, I suggest to close it.
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: ra_sch am 01. Juni 2015, 21:46:39
From my eMail conversation with OlofL I would assume that he likely will not invest in this project. Do we already have a database export from oc.se/oc.no? How many caches and logs are we talking about?
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: following am 01. Juni 2015, 22:13:03
Do we already have a database export from oc.se/oc.no?

No.

As far as I remember, they had ~ 50-100 non-GC caches, probably at really nice locations. About the same number as we have in Italy, which is supported with a localized website.

I think the data import would be a few days of work on our side. But this would make sense only if we can address the SE/NO community, which would need a translation (parts could be reused from the se/no code, which forked from OC.de in 2010). Olof had planned to do the translation, but I think he did not start it.
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: ra_sch am 01. Juni 2015, 22:36:25
Than I fear at least the import is doomed anyway. If I undertood OlofL correctly did the oc.se server crash, and its administrator (technical) had not made an attempt to recover the database...
So it would be really rather the community, which would mean translation, domains and a campaign to get some visibility. I could try to contribute some new caches in Sweden this summer...
Titel: Re: Nothern Opencaching sites
Beitrag von: following am 10. Juni 2015, 19:23:25
I have cancelled the Sweden/Norway migration tasks in the Redmine issue tracker.