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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #45 am: 17. Januar 2014, 20:15:23 »
This issue is fixed in the latest release. Thank you, Filip Michał. (Sorry!)
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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #46 am: 17. Januar 2014, 21:50:34 »
This issue is fixed in the latest release. Thank you, Filip.

Nicht verwechseln! Filip ist der Betreiber von Geokrety.org, Du meinst gerade eher Michał. :)

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #47 am: 17. Januar 2014, 23:32:40 »
Ach so! Danke für die Aufklärung.  :)

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #48 am: 19. Januar 2014, 09:55:02 »
I try to implement downloading last logs from geocaching.com and I have some problems:

1. Geocaching.com API is not available. I must log via website and parse HTML (like c:geo).

2. Login and password is required. However access to following page is available without sing in: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx?ul=Schrottie but log list is not ordered. I can download all subpages and sort it manually, but it is large amount of data, for example: 149 subpages in Schrottie :)

After sing in following page is available: http://www.geocaching.com/my/logs.aspx?s=1 This page have log list ordered by date, but:

3. In "Terms of Use" http://www.geocaching.com/about/termsofuse.aspx :
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2. Use of Our Services
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D. Restrictions. Permission to use our services is subject to the following restrictions. Whether these restrictions have been violated shall be determined in our sole discretion. You agree not to:
    i. Use any robot, spider, scraper or other automated means to access our services for any purpose without our express written permission.
    ii. Frame our websites or any portion of our sites on another website or mobile application without our written permission.

Does using c:geo breaks terms of use?
Developing a program that allows for breaking the terms of use is legal?

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #49 am: 19. Januar 2014, 10:39:05 »
Zitat von: dzwiedziu
I try to implement downloading last logs from geocaching.com...

Why is this feature needed for geokrety-travelers?

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #50 am: 19. Januar 2014, 10:50:18 »
You can select waypoint form your latest logs instead to enter manually. With Opencaching it's works very well.

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #51 am: 19. Januar 2014, 11:04:56 »
I think it provides more convenience if you grab or drop a Geokret from/to a GC cache.

I've read somewhere the c:geo devs have some kind of agreement with Groundspeak. So it's save using c:geo and the users are not getting banned because of spidering.

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #52 am: 19. Januar 2014, 15:48:04 »
With Opencaching it's works very well.

That is because we are Opencaching.  :)
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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #53 am: 21. Januar 2014, 20:59:06 »
I try to implement downloading last logs from geocaching.com and I have some problems:

1. Geocaching.com API is not available. I must log via website and parse HTML (like c:geo).

2. Login and password is required. However access to following page is available without sing in: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx?ul=Schrottie but log list is not ordered. I can download all subpages and sort it manually, but it is large amount of data, for example: 149 subpages in Schrottie :)

After sing in following page is available: http://www.geocaching.com/my/logs.aspx?s=1 This page have log list ordered by date, but:

3. In "Terms of Use" http://www.geocaching.com/about/termsofuse.aspx :
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2. Use of Our Services
[...]
D. Restrictions. Permission to use our services is subject to the following restrictions. Whether these restrictions have been violated shall be determined in our sole discretion. You agree not to:
    i. Use any robot, spider, scraper or other automated means to access our services for any purpose without our express written permission.
    ii. Frame our websites or any portion of our sites on another website or mobile application without our written permission.

Does using c:geo breaks terms of use?
Developing a program that allows for breaking the terms of use is legal?

I am not a lawyer, so I can only voice my opinion, but at one thing I am pretty sure: Violating the terms of use is not 'illegal', only a private offence. For that, groundspeak may ask for a compensation, if they can quantify a damage. And of course they can ban you 8which they can do anyway at any time according to their terms of use).
Additionally I question that the usage of c:geo really violates their terms, as to me it is just a special kind of browser with a well structured cache...

In reference to AlfredSks statement I can add that c:geo does not have any kind of formal agreement with groundspeak (yet ?) but we got clear signals from them that they currently tolerate us and may be even want to cooperate in the future (after they realized, that the PM-quota of c:geo users is at least as high as for all cachers on their platform)

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #54 am: 09. Februar 2014, 17:05:47 »
I just implement refreshing of inventory and last logs list in background. Now refreshing is launched with app screen load and you can fill other fields (i.e. comment field) simultaneously.

This feature needs a lot of changes in source code. Some things can be broke. So please testing. After find and fix bugs I will publish it in Google Play.

Testing version is available to download from SourceForge:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/geokretylog/files/ (0.5.99.x version)

I created mailing list for users and testers: http://groups.google.com/d/forum/geokrety-logger
Members of this mailing list can go to https://play.google.com/apps/testing/pl.nkg.geokrety and clicks "BECOME A TESTER". After it the testing version will be available from Google Play.

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #55 am: 10. Februar 2014, 09:26:35 »
Ok, my first manually installed apk :)

So, now I only need to know where to find a geokrety to test the logging process with it...

As the geokrety logger already has access to my GPS-coordinates and the geokrety-database, would it be a problem to add a search for the geokrets nearest to my location?

This would be a really great addition to see if there are any geokretys nearby and where they are located to go hunt for them... Any chance?


 

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #56 am: 10. Februar 2014, 10:14:37 »
You can join to http://groups.google.com/d/forum/geokrety-logger by your Google Account and after it go to https://play.google.com/apps/testing/pl.nkg.geokrety and clicks "BECOME A TESTER". But in SourceForge app is available now. In Google Play app is available ~4h after submit.

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This would be a really great addition to see if there are any geokretys nearby and where they are located to go hunt for them... Any chance?
It is good idea, but as another app. Maybe as a extension of Awaryjniejszy GPX https://github.com/f-ranek/opencaching4locus/wiki.

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #57 am: 13. Februar 2014, 20:08:47 »
I published new version for testers: v0.6.99.1
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geokrety-logger/GdDinO26LEw

Changes:
- experimental version of downloading last logs from geocaching.com

Warnings:
- using of this feature probably break geocaching's terms of use.
- login and password to geocaching.com must be stored in GeoKrety Logger app data.

If you not see geocaching.com last logs then check your login and password and refresh again.

App is available on SourceForge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/geokretylog/files/geokretylog-0.6.99.1-beta/GeoKretyLog-0.6.99.1-beta.apk/download

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #58 am: 19. Februar 2014, 19:00:31 »
I published new version for testers: v0.6.99.2

Changes:
- extracting coordinates from geocaching.com,
- fix crash on upgrade from version older than 0.6.x,
- log GeoKret validation on log screen before submit (merged from 0.6.2)

App is available on SourceForge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/geokretylog/files/geokretylog-0.6.99.2-beta/GeoKretyLog-0.6.99.2-beta.apk/download

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Re: GeoKrety Logger
« Antwort #59 am: 25. Februar 2014, 09:33:26 »
I have an issue with the profile names. I use the same name  in OC, GC and GK.
Could you give the profils a name/description?
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